Thursday, August 26, 2010

more post from fulford blog

Restore America Plan – Unofficial Update 8/23/10
Rumormill News
Restore America Plan (RAP) Update 08/23/10 – Changes Big Time, Have Faith!
Executive Summary – Tim Turner the Interim president of the Republic of the united States has resigned from what we know. It appears that Regan Reedy and Tom Schulz have also resigned but for different reasons. The de jure grand juries have been told to go dormant and no longer function. There is a new plan being worked with a better lawful constitutional format in that RAP was actually defective legally although not really known to the RAP Guardian elders at the time. We will go through some of the points below.
The new structure will be bottom up managed and led. Those at the top will not be dictating. There will be no more secrets. It looks like there is military support transferring over. The military is in a bad way now with the unqualified muslim Kenyan president leading them to their deaths in wars for the bankers and industrialists.
The Defect – The original constitution was never really ratified correctly. Thus, one cannot have a de jure constitutional government. Oh, what a web they wove! That is why the freemason, Benjamin Franklin, said, “You have a constitutional government, if you can keep it.” Remember that the founding fathers were by and large members of secret societies, Masons. The secret society people have been tormenting the people of the country for centuries. Almost every president was a member of one of these secret societies. These secret society members are in numerous secret societies; the names of these societies are not important and many of the political leaders are members of several of these secret societies. This was a serious constitutional defect.
Members of secret societies have an allegiance to the society, and the members of that society, that supersedes any allegiance, or oath, taken to any other entity. Members of secret societies should not be allowed to hold public offices, or serve as jury members, due to these blood oaths they take that supersede any other allegiances. They are not trustworthy. This is where the problem was at onset, and is still there today. The people were led to believe that there is a Constitution in place when it was never really ratified; thus, just a piece of paper as George Bush said, since it is not ratified correctly by the Congress back then. Rather than try to explain this to you in great detail I will give you the link to hear Dr. Livingston discuss this on a talkshoe call:
RAP was told about the defect, but they did not all really grasp the fullness of it. RAP was told by a knowledgeable person in Australia that all they were doing was funding the de facto government. The legal basis of what they were doing was faulty. The de facto government would have had to take a few steps back, but was worth it to them to get funded for another run at trying to take over the world and bring doom and gloom on the world. Maybe a few years down the road, they would have eroded things back to the terrorist de facto government. The de facto government really has no lawful standing, but RAP did not either. The de facto government has no real power except de facto power.
Was RAP being used by the de facto Government? – This is possibly true. You should listen to the recording done by Regan, link follows:
Some interesting points Regan makes was that, he and Turner, were involved with getting funding from foreign sources. The sources were private parties, not official government sources. In some countries, the two are the same thing. Tim chose to say governments; Regan has no idea why since he negotiated with these sources for some six weeks. Tim said these sources wanted to see an interim government in place before funding. Regan said – in six weeks of negotiations he heard nothing of this? So, it seems Tim created this for some reason? Moving along, the theory is that they would use RAP to obtain funding for the de facto government. The only way to fix the de facto government is with an outside injection of many trillions of dollars, no other way. So along comes RAP. They create a faulty structure and then get funding. Remember, Tim was going to continue with the IRS, Homeland Security, Dept. of Education, etc. OK! Perhaps for transition sake, but now it appears he was trying to keep the de facto government around to some extent. HE talked on a continuing income tax and a transition of some eight years.
We ran an article about the illegality of the US Marshal Service since they usurp power from the States by giving their marshals the power of the sheriff in any county they happen to set foot in. Then Turner said something about incorporating the US Marshals Service into the de jure office. We tried to keep giving RAP the benefit of the doubt, because the alternative with Obama is really life-threatening for much of the world. We really bent over backwards to support RAP but enough is enough. We heard some of the Grand Juries were trying to indict Turner, and he broke up the Grand Juries. Then the Grand Jury members left, perhaps 30% to 40% of them, and started to organize on their own. I got reports of Turner promoting a government healthcare plan and was interested in a war on drugs. What, not legalizing drugs? We kept quiet hoping the Military would throw the bums out of office, and then there would be elections in six months and things could get better. We got a copy of a leaked Security Council document talking of lifetime appointments. Turner denied this was a real document; others offer differing positions. Not sure what to think, but looks more and more like the de facto government was trying to raise funding this way, or, at least, perverted Turner and were using him.
Maybe Turner was compromising too much to see RAP complete the job; I do not know for sure but suspect the dark side to be the case now. Perhaps, they grabbed onto RAP, which started innocently enough and perverted it. How? Well, they would need an agent loyal to them who would quash anyone who showed any ability to think for themselves, and not follow their man blindly. First, we saw Sam Kennedy go and he took one-third of the Grand Jurors with him. Then, State Coordinators, Grand Jurors, and others left. We heard of secret Executive Committees and knew not who was on them or where these people came from. Now, it has completely fallen apart as far as we can tell. I would be rather confident that the Military is not with any remnants of RAP at this point. The secrecy was the problem, which we said many times.
What About the Military – Well, the Military was involved. Regan says they were protected by the military, so there was military support. Regan was one of the Four Guardian Elders, by the way. Now, Regan goes on to say that the Military did not want RAP done the way it was done. They wanted State Militias to be formed. Well, there are about 13 States with State Militias, but they are barely populated, have little equipment, little training, etc., and they report to the de facto Governor of the State. These de facto Governors see fit to deploy the “other” State Militias (National Guard) overseas illegally. They are not talking about the National Guard here; they mean real State Militias reporting to a de jure Governor voted into office by the soon-to-come State Assemblies. We heard some about State Militias in the news some months ago, as RAP was just getting noticed by the people:
14 United State Governors : Reestablish State Militia Defense Forces
To Be Ready Against Federal Forces!
This was an atypical article explaining to us about the State Militias. There was a rumor that Obama was threatening to arrest any Governor using their State Militia powers.
So, they are scared of We The People.
The New Plan – The new plan really has no name yet. It is not RAP or Republic of united States. It is going to be with power coming from the bottom up. RAP was top-down dictatorial. We though the Military was imposing this on them. Not so. The new plan will have no secrecy. Gosh, we were screaming all along about the evils of secrecy that sadly proved true. Had we had full disclosure, most would have either forced RAP to change, or left it. Secrecy is evil, and never lend any support to any movement that is running dark with secrecy; in fact, run the other way. Tell them, “OK! Fine! When you have restored the Republic, let us know; until then, keep your secrets to yourself, we have no interest in you or your movement.
The idea is to form State Assemblies. Anyone in the nation that is a Sovereign can join the State Assembly for their State. The State Assemblies will then ratify the Constitution correctly in a de jure manner. The Sssemblies can be, and are expected to be, way the heck bigger than 27 people. Then, the State Assemblies will elect a de jure lawful Governor. Then the Governor will take control over the State Militia. People will apparently be recruited into the Militia. I expect the already-in-place Militias around the country will de jure, merge themselves into these State Militias, plus many others of a like mind and will to stand up for freedom, will join the Militias. The Military proper will then insert themselves under the State Militias; this means arms, equipment, training, communications, intel, etc. The State Militias will execute orders from the de jure Governors who the State Assemblies elected. Then Military will then operate under the State Militias to protect the country from enemies, within and without. This is how the Military originally wanted it to go with RAP under State Militias. Turner and RAP thought this would scare the de facto government, so they refrained from associating with the Militias. They also refrained from associating with any other groups, not good. So this should still have Military support plus Militia support. It will be massive in size compared to RAP.
Treason, Sedition, etc – It appears that Turner never recovered any assets of the bandits impersonating government. They are still running with trillions. If you want a quick look at where they probably have a lot of their money, look at Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, being in the G-20, screaming for information-sharing for tax reasons through the OECD for other countries; Saudi Arabia itself chose to not allow any information-sharing regarding their bank accounts. Hmmm. One does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where their money is. See, they are stupid. The Queen of England bank accounts are, of course, another place to look, but slim chance one will ever get into those records. If they use her, then she controls their money; not all that likely, but entirely possible. Third choice is the Vatican Bank. I think this can be gotten into a lot easier than the Bank of England. As we said: the war with Iran is really to protect Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other dictatorships from the war machine Iran has built. Iran can only provoke Israel into destroying her on many levels, and thus presents no strategic threat.
OK! So now we are being told that ONLY the State Militia can conduct trials for sedition and treason (that took place inside the country, I assume). This comes from the Military. Thus, the Military proper, wanted the State Militias there, to place themselves under. Turner wanted peace, love and never spoke about treason and sedition trials. Treason and sedition trials are an important ingredient to guard against others doing the same thing if it stays in the history books. Also, it provides a legal remedy to recover ill-gotten money. Imagine, if the kids learned about people hanged for putting the de facto government in place, instead of chopping down some stupid cherry tree. I was hoping Turner was avoiding prosecutions as a way of making it easy for the culprits to give up and surrender their ill-gotten gains. It was apparently just a ploy to keep these guys around to play again another day down the road. It appears that the Military is interested in trials. Look at 9/11, especially, the false flag attack on the Pentagon. What about an unqualified Commander in Chief from Kenya who is a Muslim with background full of lies that is so bad he could not pass a background investigation to be a toll taker.
Do We Think RAP Was a Ploy at Onset – No. RAP revealed too much vital damaging information about the de facto government, although we now see that much of it was wrong. In any event, the damage was done in that many people now see the errors. We think that the de facto government heard about it, and tried to alter the course to suit their needs. This was possibly when Tim Turner was brought in. The de facto government is running scared right now.
Do We Think this New State Assemblies Movement is a Ploy? – No, we do not. Sure, you can say we were wrong about RAP; and, on this, we admit we were wrong about RAP. The secrecy was the problem. With full, open disclosure, we would never have fallen for RAP. We want change badly, as you do. We are sorry about the error with RAP, and we are going to keep trying until freedom is attained. Doing nothing is a fatal error. The new movement is again establishing errors the de facto government made. Their findings are consistent with my thinking, regarding the founding fathers being members of secret societies. The fellow, Dr. Livingston, has been working this movement since the 1990’s. Now, combined with the former RAP people, it has legs. I expect these legs to grow hard and fast. It is said we will see the actual paperwork within one week. They know time is short. They are trying to blend this movement in with many other movements including the Militias, I understand. I would expect to see the county Grand Juries in this, as well as other groups. Remember, this is open, direct straight up.
Does This New Movement Have Military Support? – Possibly Military support will transfer over. I am not sure any of them emphatically knows where the Military is on this. RAP was a dismal failure, so they might be chomping at the bit to get a solution in place, or they might be running cautious. Time will tell, but there is going to be open disclosure. If there are any signs of running silent, the movement will be vacated by everyone in it now.
Will the New Plan Work Without Military? – We think so. We think this movement will have hundreds of thousands of sign-ups in days; eventually grow to the millions. Remember, they are going to use the State Militias big time. This will scare the de facto government people in a big way, right down to the county Court House.
Will the de facto Government Use Police and Military Against this Movement? – We, no doubt, think they would like to, but they have to be careful. There are 100 million gun owners in the USA, according to many. They say 3% of these people will do what happened in Paul Revere’s day; that is, 3,000,000. This estimate now could have tripled by now. Obama is the perfect storm, remember that. He is a gift in this regards, making it easy to get people mobilized and march down to city hall – angry, ready for fast changes.
Will the Military Attack We the People for this Movement? – Doubt it highly. The parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, children, grandchildren and spouses of the Military live in the country. Their friends live in the country. They are not going to attack the people for the sake of the banksters, especially with perfect-storm Obama at the helm. When confronted, they will procrastinate and do nothing; possibly saying they refuse, or want to investigate the legality of the circumstances. Do not buy all this nonsense about the Military using weapons of mass destruction on the populace. They would be killing their friends and families and for whom – Obama? Come on.
The mid-line officers refused to follow his deployment orders to the Middle East, preferring to stand Court Martial instead. The Federal Police Agencies should not be relied on to do the right thing for their employers, the corporation; I doubt they will. But they are not a Military. They have shotguns, pistols and a few machine guns in 9mm and 10mm, maybe an armored car or two here and there. They have no Military might. These are not valiant courageous fighters who will never stand down against overwhelming odds. They greatly outnumber and outgun their adversaries, or they wait for more forces before deploying. Bullies and, to some large extent, cowards who are afraid to get into a real fight. If they have overwhelming odds, they will bully. If say 500 of them had to confront say 60 Militia, I would lay 10-to-1 odds they disband before engaging; or; maybe; do a Mexican standoff. If there were 200 militia against 500 of them, they would probably surrender, if they could not retreat, but they would never, ever engage. They are bullies when they have the odds and think no one will resist them. When the worm turns, they will be unreliable defenders for their masters, just cashing their paychecks for as long as they can. Think of it as your tax dollars at rest. I expect few will defect.
Remember, they live in our communities. If they are going to engage the Assemblies and Militia, they will need to relocate their families to secure bases. Look for this as a warning sign. The state, county, city, sheriffs, marshals, troopers and police will probably never raise arms. They will first try to just sit tight on the sidelines and cash their paychecks. Many will defect from the de facto and come over. Many Agencies themselves may convert to de jure. They are not going to be a problem; and, expect them to be allies, maybe not the first day but very soon. They are also highly teachable, so consider outreach early on. You think the NYPD and NYFD is enjoying the Obama-endorsed mosque going up near 9/11 after all the guys they lost? Reach out to these folks early.
Do We Think This New Plan Will Lead to Fighting? – No. Resistance will be futile for them. Remember the Militias are in place already, just need to be organized under the State Assemblies-elected Governors. It is important the movement run at a very fast pace, extremely fast. Also, bear in mind numerous other organizations are joining in as a collective, so the size at onset will be massive compared to RAP. This will grow at an amazing pace. It should work with transparency, since this enables us to get people involved.
What About Funding? – OK! Let Regan and Tom deal with this, along with others. There are ways to attach the funds the de facto guys stole. Any offshore-asset-protection law firm could explain how. Basically, you get orders from a de jure court and serve them on the foreign country where their funds are kept. Cutting through anonymous corps, trusts, foundations can be done if you know how; and, it is driven by a national government on charges like treason, extortion, sedition, genocide, murder, terrorism, etc. If the country, where the money is, does not cooperate, then you break relations with them, sue them for conspiracy, start blocking their wire transfers, and even grab funds and assets they have in other nations. If the gloves are off, there is no resistance, rest assured. Instead of giving money to the de facto government, we can all contribute what we can to jumpstart the government; others will want to contribute. Let’s worry about this as we go. Let’s go from A to B before we worry about J and K.
Do We Think RAP is Over? – We do. We have not heard from RAP. We used to be contacted numerous times per week by RAP people at various levels, which has stopped. We contacted RAP for answers on things in this article – got nothing back. We are hearing Turner resigned. We think RAP has had its day. If anyone in RAP has contrary information, we wish to hear it.
Do We Think That RAP People Will Be Arrested? – Emphatically, no! If there was no new movement, this would be a strong possible. Arrests would drive a new movement fast and hard, not the opposite. Remember, merging with the Militia is not just them coming into the fold, it is many others showing support and need of them. If you think the de facto government is not afraid of you, you are wrong. They are extremely afraid of you, as evidenced by their unrelenting desire to take your guns away. They are stupid. They are lazy. They like to consume alcohol and drugs. They seem to be unfaithful in their marriages, and like to have sex with children. They like statues, secrets and symbolism. This is your enemy. Respect the propensity for extreme violence. They are cruel, and will press hard; and, be very slow to give up, but they will give up. Do not believe they are smart. Also there are very few of them, maybe two or three thousand; some say two or three hundred.
What to Do? – Don’t mourn RAP. Don’t feel sorry for yourselves as if all is lost. Regroup immediately into the new movement, and keeping pressing on for a Constitutional Government. The founding fathers sure had their struggles, until they got free, if they ever really got free, which is now the topic. March on and keep you eye on freedom.
A Word to Those in the New Movement – Contact us so we can make people aware of the movement. We tried reaching out already, and got no answer. Talk to us.
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Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 5:53 am

Libertarians have the right outlook for America
[5:02:08 PM] Rob: Their only protection came from operating in secrecy until measures were in place
[5:02:39 PM] Rob: Very immature outlook
[5:03:10 PM] Rob: You don’t warn the enemy before taking them down
[5:04:30 PM] Rob: This is a Plan designed by God, the world is not ready until the fields are plowed under of evil
[5:05:22 PM] Rob: Corruption runs through all of government
[5:05:33 PM] Rob: Down to the county level
[5:05:47 PM] Rob: Yep
[5:06:01 PM] Rob: Police are corrupt
[5:06:36 PM] Rob: Until they are exposed and managed the playing field cannot be leveled
[5:07:31 PM] Rob: If you unlawfully arrest someone, you are corrupt
[5:07:58 PM] Rob: Courts are completely corrupted
[5:08:16 PM] Rob: All theway up to the Supreme Court
[5:09:09 PM] Rob: Guns are why America is still free
[5:09:53 PM] Rob: Yes indeed
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 6:14 am

Hi All
Ben posted this on his free site.
G.T. Fulford’s Asia connection and links with Japanese freemasonry
Investigating a 110-year old mystery is always difficult, and it is more so when many important archives were destroyed in a fire. Nonetheless, I have come to the conclusion my industrialist great-grandfather was involved with Asian secret societies in a battle against what he called “Babylonian tyranny.”
G.T Fulford came from a poor background in Brockville, Ontario, Canada to become one of the richest men in the world by the time he died in 1905. He sold patent medicines in over 87 countries and was the largest single shareholder in General Electric at the time of his death.
He died in the first ever fatal car crash in North America when his car was side-swiped. After his death, according to my grandmother, most of his General Electric Shares were sold off by a corrupt trust fund and ended up in the hands of the Rockefeller syndicate.
G.T. Fulford visited Asia and set up extensive operations there, some of which run to this day.
Japanese dignitaries visited Fulford place and sent a representative to watch over the family after G.T. Fulford died. He went by the name of Mr. Rayburn (real name Suzuki) and stayed with the family until he was incarcerated during World War 2. His mind was destroyed during his stay at the Canadian concentration camp and he never recovered from that ordeal.
Here is a picture of G.T.’s daughter and some female acquaintances wearing kimonos sometime around 1900:
If any reader can identify them, please contact this website.
Members of the secret society G.T. Fulford belonged to now occupy senior positions in the Japanese government hierarchy.
Comment by getem on August 25, 2010 @ 6:42 am

We would definitely know that things are on the mend if some of the Free Energy were to developed and released in mass. Unfortunately, until now, it seems as though anyone that’s been successful at developing free and/or inexpensive forms of energy have either been bought off or offed.
That’s what makes so much of this so maddening is the fact that we know this technology exists and they have purposely kept it from us.
Comment by patriotkate on August 25, 2010 @ 6:44 am

Hi All
Ben’s post refers to a picture and asks us to help identify some people. Unfortunately Ben has not included this picture in his post. Maybe he will post this later, possibly an oversite on his part?
Comment by getem on August 25, 2010 @ 6:47 am

Honeybees seem to be making a comeback where we live (near Santa Rosa, CA). In fact, there have been so many around lately that my wife thought we had a hive near our house. I’ve never seen so many in the past 5 years. I have no idea why. They just seemed to show up the last few months.
During the Bohemian Grove party not a chemtrail in the sky.
Comment by g7enn on August 25, 2010 @ 7:01 am

wbstreck, inre BEES!!!
from EW:
A friend of mine is a beekeeper. Last year he had a lot of problems with his bees and only one colony survived the winter.
In the spring of this year he bought some new bee colonies and I gave him a handful of TBs. He placed them under the hives and in the area around.
This year all the bees are very well and active and he got fine honey.
Yesterday this friend visited me and told me that he and another beekeeper who is living in the neighborhood had received an honor for the taste and quality of their honey.
it is quite a difference, if you remember that last year most of his bees died.
He is also convinced that this positive development is the result of orgonite.
(Anna and I gifted the whole area intensively during the last 9 months.)
Another gifter said he placed cone-shaped TBs under some of his hives and the bees made their own cone shape, flying around above the hives!
Comment by suncrystal on August 25, 2010 @ 7:21 am

[6:10:59 PM] Riddle Mountain Man: I woke up this morning to an absurd post on NESARA, needless to say it made my blood boil and as you might predict, I set out to rebut it via the comment function. However my comment was too long for the software to accept. Since I was not willing to shorten it and the only part of it I would have liked to change is the term “intestinal fortitude” in favor of “testicular fortitude” but couldn’t do that and remain a lady, I sent it to John MacHaffie via email and asked him to post it. The rebuttal I authored is below and I hope it is acceptable. I did not however identify myself as a juror and used my initials instead of my whole name…………………
Ok, let’s just nip this one in the bud. First, Tim Turner has not resigned. Has he left RAP? Yes, RAP was a plan, a means to an end if you will. The plan is no longer needed because the Republic has been Restored. It is now the Republic of the united States of America. The Grand Juries will not “go dormant.” The two elders who resigned have decided to go forth with their own “Revised Version” of RAP and they have every right to do that even though it is not needed the education they wish to provide is. There are some serious problems as to the basis of that education though.
While Dr. Livingston believes himself to be right he is not, there is solid documentation to prove that the original constitution was indeed ratified properly however that is a moot point. The Law of the land was not based on the Constitution but rather the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution is to that Declaration what “by laws” are to modern corporations, a set of “Rules of Engagement” or a guide to how the mutual needs of the states in commerce and defense would be carried out. I won’t go into detailed history on that point at this time but leave it to all of you to do your own due diligence and look it up.
Has there been change at the top, absolutely as it appears two of the elders did not possess the intestinal fortitude to go the distance. They have succumbed instead to the fear the elite so artfully instill in the hearts of men. They have also been successful in taking some of the executive committee with them and that too is just as well, they can certainly be replaced. For those who do not accept that there exists by default a certain level of danger in any plan to restore this nation to her people and cannot accept the reality of how that danger will affect them on a personal level, there is no place of comfort save that of retreat.
The claim that the funding will not be completed is false. The claim that the corporation is gearing up to attack is yet to be seen but I ask you, did you think they wouldn’t? Did you think that an elite group of megalomaniac criminals who have carefully crafted a decades long plan to control the world, reduce its population, collapse nations and reap the wealth of the world unto themselves would simply stand down when the people rise up and object? I highly doubt they would or will but for those who are restoring this mighty nation once again to the people, a rock solid resolve is necessary.
I listened carefully to the call referenced above and found much of it to be poppycock to put it mildly. It is pure unadulterated insanity to entertain the notion even for a moment that the elite will sit on their thumbs and afford the people the time it would take to become re-educated and empowered enough to take their country back. This nation as we know it is on the brink of destruction. The corporation is broke, flat broke and they are in the throes of panic in their frantic search for refunding in order to complete the agenda. We are being pushed from every direction to take the bait and react in violence to give them the necessary excuse for declaring martial law. That has not worked and I contend the hand of God is the only reason it hasn’t. Failing that, they go on to plan B, to incite and promote WWIII and if you think that isn’t in the works at this very moment you are indeed comatose.
The preparation for pre-determined martial law has been going on for years. This is but one illustration…http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf That is disturbing to be sure but it’s also mild compared to some of the other measures they are prepared to take against the people of this country. The twisted groups of self styled elite at the heart of the agenda are utterly and completely morally bankrupt. They place no value on human life, human condition or divine guidance; indeed those concepts are repugnant to them. They will kill you just as easily as you might step on an ant. They will enslave you just as easily as you will bow down to their wishes out of fear. They will dictate your every action in every minute of every day for the rest of your lives and for the lifetimes of your children. This folks is the ultimate war between good and evil which has existed since time began and it is without doubt the “End Game” for the elite.
So, with the evidence everywhere you look and in every aspect of your daily lives what will you choose? For it is a choice; one that our founders also had to make, will you choose liberty and your rightful place in this great nation? Or will you bow down to fear as those who hold the leash around your neck desire? It’s that simple.
This woman will stand! Stand with the restored Republic of the united States of America!
Again, I hope this wasn’t too combative.
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 7:37 am

Yes- on the chemtrails I agree with you on that being a factor in addition to all the other things going on.
Suncrystal- I’ve been working with the bees using some of the co-creative science principles pioneered by Machaelle Wright, Reiki energy , and in building a relationship where they are respected and “listened to” .
we’ve just started looking into the CB and TB construction principles in order to test what the results might be. I just made contact with a local crystal supplier who digs them in Arkansas, so that was a nice find! I’ll be interested to hear from the bees once we make some of the organite to spread a round.
Comment by hfloyd on August 25, 2010 @ 7:54 am

Some l-o-n-g posts are valuable.
Comment by foodrules on August 25, 2010 @ 7:55 am

To All , a great rebuttal, even more than a rebuttal, a valiant stand, and a insspiration to disclose the real truths ,and to go forth with courage and dignity.
Comment by wbstreck on August 25, 2010 @ 8:03 am

hutzman 5:53 and 7:37 am Good posts! Thanks
Comment by cfree928 on August 25, 2010 @ 8:12 am

go restored republics!!!!
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:37 am

God bless an protect the grand jurors
to the highest of high we pray
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:39 am

Hey there
[7:13:48 PM] Rob: I’m listening
[7:17:04 PM] Rob: Tim is the AntiChrist LOL
[7:17:32 PM] Rob: Tim was not the compromised one
[7:17:58 PM] Rob: No I avoid the RAP 1 room
[7:18:19 PM] Rob: To much conjecture and disinformation
[7:19:58 PM] Rob: RAP served honorably and well, now they need to move on and learn something
[7:20:43 PM] Rob: They issued lawful orders to the military
[7:20:48 PM] Rob: STAGE II
[7:20:58 PM] Rob: Right
[7:21:22 PM] Rob: The battlefield is being conditioned
[7:22:00 PM] Rob: White Knights are in the lead
[7:22:47 PM] Rob: Each Jury is severly compromised
[7:23:08 PM] Rob: Pray
[7:23:55 PM] Rob: Read your bible and it will all be revealed
[7:24:11 PM] Rob: This is the end times plan
[7:24:25 PM] Rob: Yes indeed
[7:25:10 PM] Rob: Trust in the Lord and the head of the White Knights St. Germaine
[7:25:43 PM] Rob: Think of the scope of ridding the earth of evil
[7:26:06 PM] Rob: No it is an illusion
[7:27:50 PM] Rob: You find yourself in a room full of mirrors waiting for a spiritual guide to lead you out
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:43 am

Greg – I’ll give you my 2 cents worth on RAP – I can’t say that RAP has officially split – but Tim has removed himself with a plan only he signed and took to the state coordinators to vote on – including voting on him to be president. This happened the week of July 15th and all happened basically over the weekend of Jiuly 16-19. Tom was extremely unhappy about this – Regan tried to be a peace maker as he has been between Tim and Sam Kennedy, and between Tim and Sam Davis, then between Tom Shaultz and Tim – do you see a pattern here??? Hmmm. Tim continued to move ahead with his plan once voted in as President – not called the Republic of the United States. On the other hand, Tom Schaultz and Regan, were very quiet for weeks and weeks – meeting with the FBI to cool things down with them over the turn Tim took and the organization he was planning (offices) and accusations of jury tampering and bribery. They had to meet with the FBI numerous times in person and on the phone to try to appease them and keep the GJ members that voted out of a possible big problem for themselves. Some even signed a Writ of Divorce when they found out they’d voted for a plan not sanctioned by ALL the elders some felt deceived and very angry and are to this day. Until Sunday night we’d heard almost nothing from Tom and Regan and wondered where they were in all this. Suddenly came the message from Regan, posted on John’s blog that there would be a call and that we were all invited to attend and we’d hear from Dale Livingston. Dale is extremely well -educated in the law, our history and the constitution and did a surperb job (my opinion) in presenting his thoughts of what needed to be done to put the people back in power the way the original constitution meant it to be. Dale has a charter he wrote in the 90’s – what he shared Sunday night as part of the charter was very impressive (my opinion) I presume Tom and Regan are intending to implement the plan Dale shared – it is a bottom’s up plan — not a top down plan. Regan shared that there were publically washing their hands of anything that “might” happen to folks under Tim’s plan. The GJ members have been asked to “stand down” – as unintentional mistakes were made from the beginning with RAP and we need to go back to the roots of the constitutution and get it ratified by the states lawfully (which was never done) -and then go from there. This nation, the congress, the presidency ALL are defacto because the continental congress set these things up ignoring the law and the constitution so there are many “holes” that have to be mended and until they are – ANYTHING that is done aside from doing it correctly will only BENEFIT the current defacto government. Every thing this “new” endeavor (under Regan, Tom and Jed and ????? and Dale do will be upfront and in the open – Dale’s documents (written in the 90’s) have to be updated to 2010 and then they will be ready for ALL to view. I hope this helps. I’m not sure that any of them have officially “resigned” from RAP on paper – but I don’t know that the name RAP will continue to be associated with any of them. It is up to us to listen and decide which group we think is the one that will prevail. Right now I believe they have military “protection” – but that’s not the same as “military” support. I don’t believe either one of them have any “funds” they can lay their hands on. If anyone disagrees with what I’ve shared here – you are welcome to make it known – I can only share the knowledge I have.
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:48 am

Submitted by JS – thanks
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:49 am

Masterminds, Mosques and Mass Insanity: “War on Terrorism” Propaganda Ratcheted up Ahead of War Escalation
By Larry Chin
URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20703
Global Research, August 20, 2010
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:54 am

The Long Road to The Hague: Prosecuting Former Prime Minister Tony Blair
Part I
By Lesley Docksey
URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20740
Global Research, August 23, 2010
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 8:55 am

Hfloyd, thank you. I learned more about the bee situation from your post than all the articles I’ve read over the past 3 years. Good recommendation on the raw honey. I assumed most honey is pasteurized, probably unnecessarily.
For those of you who haven’t heard of Royal Bee Honey, it’s more of a health supplement. I understand it is created by the worker bees for the nourishment of the Queen Bee. Benefits of taking it are associated with energy, longevity and immune system protection. Containing 35% protein, it is a highly concentrated source of essential nutrients containing all the B vitamins, vitamins C, D, E and K, more than 12 minerals, 18 amino acids, collagen and lecithin.
http://royalbee.net/ One tablespoon a day. It’s delicious!
Comment by joann on August 25, 2010 @ 9:00 am

[7:55:26 PM] Greatvoice: Also there was a great Article on “Did Andrew Breitbart Lay A Trap For Sherrod’s Fraud… Unbelievable!! http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=180069 Where there was Fraud on the part of Ms. Sherod: here is the Article. Where somehow Mistyeriously some 39,697 Black/ Negro farmers changed to 86,000 claims… How could that happen: Read ON: Did Andrew Breitbart Lay A Trap For Sherrod’s Fraud… Unbelievable!!
He proved it originally with his brilliant handling of the ACORN ‘hooker’ scandal which he skillfully manipulated so that the corrupt media was forced, against its will, to broadcast corruption in one of Obama’s most powerful political support groups. But Breitbart’s handing of that affair is nothing compared to his brilliant manipulation of the Shirley Sherrod ‘white farmer’ scandal.
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 9:01 am

A vast solar system of seven planets orbiting a sun-like star has been discovered 127 light years from Earth.
The planetary system is believed to be the largest ever detected beyond the sun.
Astronomers have confirmed the presence of five planets and have tantalising evidence of two more.
Comment by beatbox151 on August 25, 2010 @ 9:24 am

Comment by fixthefuture on August 25, 2010 @ 9:43 am

Jordan Maxwell — Jeff Rense Interview 08-16-10 Part 1/3
Comment by beatbox151 on August 25, 2010 @ 9:44 am

[8:45:03 PM] songsofpeace: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=85200&cmd=tc
[8:53:06 PM] J Smith- Outlaw: http://www.redemptionservice.com/contents/why_the_ucc_filing.asp
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 9:56 am

Obama’s Approval Hits All-Time Low of 39 Percent Among Men, Says Gallup
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:00 am

Message from SaLuSa from the Galactic Federation
Submitted by BM – Thanks
Messenger Mike Quinsey
Dear Ones, let it be said that before you dropped down into the lower vibrations, you were fully aware of your origin as a Spark of God. That was so long ago that it cannot be spoken of in linear terms, as initially you were not in a physical body such as you have now. However, intelligent life forms have been on Earth for millions of years during which the Earth has become a prison planet, where for various reasons souls have been sent to it. As a result you have become quite a mixture of souls, from the unmanageable who exploited the dark energies, to those who have brought the Light with them. What has ensued for millennia of time is constant battles between the dark and Light to control the Earth. Each have had periods when they have been the dominant force, and gradually the Light has emerged as the victor. However, this was not before the dark Ones virtually achieved their plan for total world control, and the slavery of Mankind.
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:18 am

Vince Vance’s Musical Video Called I am New Orleans
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:19 am

I think thje needs groups are being funded by the farm claims and thats different then the nasara bill
[8:58:05 PM]
David A Blodgett: http://www.omegansareliars.com/nesara-gunpoint.htm
here’s another nesara link
[8:59:21 PM] David A Blodgett:
[9:13:50 PM] David A Blodgett: this was an interesting article to read and you can form your own opinion
[9:13:56 PM] David A Blodgett: http://nesara.insights2.org/Dove.html
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:25 am

Ray Stevens – God Save Arizona
this is an excellent song
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:27 am

The Face Of Evil: BANNED INTERVIEW with George Bush Jr. Former US President
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:39 am

http://bit.ly/cWcOSE ~ Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos
http://bit.ly/bebO4N ~ ABU GHRAIB Torture & Prisoner Abuse
http://bit.ly/cGDbw6 ~ The Bush Administration’s Response To ABU GHRAIB
http://bit.ly/cNBxX9 ~ GEORGE SR-NEW WORLD ORDER
http://bit.ly/9rNyCH ~ Bush Gets Caught In His Own Lie
Finding The Humor
http://bit.ly/cEzYZb ~ 8 Years Of ‘Bushisms’
http://bit.ly/cibeys ~ george bush is funny
http://bit.ly/9Eedjb ~Must See Hilarious Bush Bloopers!
http://bit.ly/d8FiAT ~ George W Bush – American Idiot
http://bit.ly/ani4zI ~ George W. Bush screw ups
Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:43 am

Comment by hutz on August 25, 2010 @ 10:48 am

Hi BEN and Ya’all
We rally have it going on on this blog. Great insights, reporting and encouraging comments made by all.
But we really have to ‘take out’ the TPTB and their Assasins and genocidal projects that the NWO-cabal, PTB, Sociopathic Illuminati-Nazi Satanists have in store for four billion of us.There has been break in the various attcks on our humanity, maybe they are hard at work trying to foment WWlll with Iran and that has them busy , causing this lull in their evil-doings, even chemtrails, I hear from , you’all. Before it’s NEWS, Sorch Faal’s site discusses the murder of Matt Simmons by SIS,or, MI6.
I still say we need to get help from the Avazz worldwide grassroots action organization and get BP in receivership for ecological and physical damages to the world’s enviorment, and many other injured parties.This was an epic catastophe due to negelct and poor management by BP. Methane is 20 times worse than carbondioxide,as having the greenhouse gas effect on the planet.Let them pay for their carnage. Over a quarter of a million maritime creatures died an oily death too. Deadly Corexit in the sea, acid rain in the skies.
Matt was a good steward on the earth blessing both mankind and our planet. Please see the uplink below regarding Matt Simmon’s( of Rockport,Maine)assasination.
And at this same time remember, the murder of Chris Story , and the attempts on Ben’s life.
One every post we call for the necessary intervention of the WDS,BDS,Red and Green warriors, and The Pentagon Chiefs to remove this bain of sociopathic murderers from be world society.
Comment by wbstreck on August 25, 2010 @ 11:36 am

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